Talk: TYPE-MOON Wiki/Archive 1

Logo proposal

I think the upper left corner over there could go with a better image. I whipped this up on the quick, is it acceptable?

And if we go with this (or something like it) for now, we can, of course, always change it later. --Grm wnr 00:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it's fine. As you say "We can just change it later". -- Shintis 02:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I tried painting the moon red. This is quick&dirty shop as I have no idea what fonts you used, so I don't want to upload it to Wikia. Here's a link. If you like it, just apply it to your picture. If not, your version is fine. Azaghal 16:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that's slightly too red. I made a redder compromise version, and overwrote my first proposal with it; you might have to purge your browser cache to see it. --Grm wnr 17:02, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I feel the brackets are a bit too fat, take up too much space on the moon... Rest (moon, text) is fine with me otherwise. Byakko 09:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, here's another version of it, with the above point addressed and a couple of other changes for discussion. If the other changes don't go down well, elements from both can be mixed & matched:

File:Tmwlogo2.png

--Grm wnr 09:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Fine with me (outline on the moon, separation line above the text, smaller brackets...) Byakko 11:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this one is good.Azaghal 13:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I installed it for now. --Grm wnr 12:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

You also need a wide version of the logo for the Quartz skins to use. It's the default skin that visitors see when they come here (if they aren't logged in). -Afker 17:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint, I made one:

And I also threw in a favicon while I was at it. --Grm wnr 20:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

About categories

I think we have to decide upon a category scheme. At the moment, the categories used are tag-like: Everything related to TYPE-MOON (i.e., every article here) goes into Category:TYPE-MOON, all characters go into Category:Characters, all Tsukihime characters go into Category:Characters in Tsukihime. That seems logical; However, Wikipedia uses a different approach, and for a good reason: It clutters large categories (like Category:TYPE-MOON in this case) to the point of uselessness, and also clutters articles with many, many categories, many of which are pretty redundant. It's also not entirely logical; subgroups like "Characters in Tsukihime" should not exist, since it's just an intersection of the "tags" "Characters" and "Tsukihime".

The Wikipedia approach is more tree- or directory-like: Articles go only in the lowest branch of the category tree they belong in, unless the tree branches earlier. That means the following: Characters appearing in Tsukihime go only in Category:Characters in Tsukihime, which would be a subcategory of Category:Characters and a subcategory of Category:Tsukihime. However, the article Arcueid Brunestud would still additionally go in Category:Vampires, which is an unrelated branch (since it goes by another property of the character than the source or its basic approach as a character). This can, of course, be more specific; a category like "Vampires in Tsukihime" (a subcategory of "Vampires" and "Characters in Tsukihime", since all vampires are characters) is also imaginable.

This is, in my opinion, a cleaner approach overall; it can still be mixed and matched with the other approach. It can be decided upon to place all character articles into "Characters" anyway, since this is considered important enough to merit an "umbrella" category. But an article should not go into all halfway fitting categories by default.

The usual opposition to this is twofold: One is that it's less intuitive. That is not a huge problem, since not everybody is REQUIRED to place the 100% perfectly correct categories - there will be people around who will sort articles correctly eventually, if the system in which to do this is defined. The other is that it hampers navigation. That is a bit besides the point, in my opinion, since categories are not ideal tools for that anyway. It is better to group topics closely related with templates for navigation, because these can be formatted much better than categories.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the matter. I don't think the present category system has ever been decided upon, but we can still do this in retrospect. But I'd like to hear other opinions in light of my tl;dr above. --Grm wnr 17:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I feel that that is a pretty good idea. It prevents a fair bit of clutter and problems, as a wiki doesn't work like a tag system which is what it's being used as currently (I have to admit that's what I was thinking of when I added the categories). - RexRox 06:40, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Then would you (as the one who's been doing the most category work) mind if I went around and adjusted the categories to a system like outlined above? Since this wiki isn't that large, I could always roll back the changes later. --Grm wnr 12:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Forum:The Wikia Graphical Entertainment Project

Just noticed that ppl might not be accustomed to using the forum system here, so pasting the link here. Please read it and comment, thanks. -Afker 23:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Placeholders

I noticed many placeholder articles on here, and want to share some perspectives.

On one of the larger wikis I often visit, they have a "no blank article policy". They strongly feel that a red link is much better than a placeholder article with zero information. Their rational is that, if someone sees a red link, they know they can click on it and add things to it (and it'd also be listed under Special:Wantedpages). However, if you create placeholder articles, that will make the majority of your articles contentless, and harder for people to tell which article needs to be "created".

If 80% of the time the blue link I click on leads to a placeholder page with no information, that's gonna discourage me away from the wiki. Red will warn me there's nothing to see there, and also invites me to create the initial page.

Therefore I highly encourage the community here to not create additional placeholder articles, and actually work on giving existing placeholder articles content. One simple way is to import from Wikipedia, then delete unnecessary sections and edit other parts to make the article suit this wiki. -Afker 18:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

You have been Noded!

Hi, the AliceSoft Wiki has listed the TYPE-MOON Wiki on its WikiNode as a neighbor! I'm interested in getting more wikis in general to use WikiNodes, and it'd be great if you guys can create a WikiNode of your own.

Overhaul

Hullo! I've just given your Main Page a bit of an overhaul, similar to the current new Wikia wiki style. Feel free to revert if you don't like it, but it should make it easier to add stuff :) Kirkburn (talk) 20:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Quotations

There is a custom I've seen on other wikis that deal primarily with fiction: to open each larger article with a quote describing its subject, taken verbatim from the original source. I was thinking that there ought to be tons of fitting quotations in Type-Moon's visual novels... What do you think? --Koveras Alvane 21:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikia Gaming IRC channel

Hullo! I am Kirkburn, your friendly local Wikia Gaming Helper!

You may be interested to know there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, #wikia-gaming on chat.freenode.net, where you can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. If you are not familiar with IRC clients, you can access it from http://irc.wikia.com/gaming.

Different people may be on sporadically, but we organize weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask and answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (e.g. WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me! Kirkburn (talk) 11:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Quartz skin update

Hi, you may have heard that Wikia is updating its default skin to "Monaco" (skin info, features). This wiki is currently on the old Quartz skin (you may see it differently depending on your preferences). So we would like to switch you over. There are 7 color schemes to choose from:


Sapphire	Jade	Slate	Smoke

Beach	Brick	Gaming

Alternatively, you can choose to make a custom scheme, like Memory Alpha, Military Wikia, Rappelz or even (if you really want to see what can be done) UK Transport Wikia. For more examples, see here.

Any admin can set the scheme, just go to your preferences, choose the "skin" tab, and scroll down to the admin options section. For a custom scheme you will need to follow the instructions on the help page.

We need to make the switches soon, so if I don't hear from you, I'll change to Monaco Sapphire in a couple of days time. Then you can decide on your ideal scheme later. If you decide on a custom scheme, and need some help, then let me know! Kirkburn (talk) 01:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

As the wiki was previously set to Quartz Smoke, I have switched to Monaco Smoke. Kirkburn (talk) 06:41, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Getting Type-Moon games

Hi, I'm in the US and I'm wondering where to buy Type-Moon games. Maybe there could be a page with a list of retailers/importers? Or do English fans all just torrent these games? :P --anon

I found a site that has some non-torrent links, but I've never seen a site that actually sold a real copy of any Type-Moon Visual Novels, short of Realta Nua. I found Notes at Gaku Gaku Animal Land, and the Kara no Kyoukai anime on Youtube. If you're interested in the links, just ask on my talk page, though the Kara no Kyoukai ones may be dead now.--Twelveseal 03:08, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Man, that's too bad. The type-moon guys could be making money by exporting their games to English-speaking countries even without putting any effort into localizing them. Oh well. I guess I'll find them on my own... --OP

Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya are out of print for years now. You can still get Tsukibako (Tsukihime + Plus+Disc + Kagetsu Tohya) in shops in Japan for cheap (of course, you actually have to be in Japan to do that >_> ), but I'm not aware of any shops that ship overseas.
As for F/SN, the links mirror moon put when released the patches are still alive : and while Realta Nua is sold out, vanilla F/SN, Hollow Ataraxia,MBAA ver.B and MBAA are still available at paletweb, himeyashop and erogeshop. Note that prices and shipping options are different for all three sites. --Azaghal 11:00, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Western order

Would anyone actually mind if the naming order was switched at all? Pretty much every serious anime and manga related wiki switched over ages ago, so it seems rather pointless to stick with it here. EGGS 18:36, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

Layout

Just pointing out that the layout of the main page has been wrecked by wikia's advertisement for their video game olympics. Aassdddai talk 09:30, July 31, 2012 (UTC)

Who

Who created Type-Moon? Maguilty Knights (talk) 09:06, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Where do i buy the tsukihime visual novel?

News archive

I've created News archive based on the news template history. I hope you like it. Feel free to update it with things I've missed, and I hope it will be maintained in the future. Cheers, --Piotrus (talk) 04:26, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

2014 series not showing? The series fate/stay night unlimited blade works tv isn't here. Did no one make a wiki for it?