Hi all, I just want to mention the Wikia Graphical Entertainment Project (WGEP), and see if this wiki would be interested in joining. It's a project to unify and help wikis related to anime, manga, and "animanga games" (which most Japanese games are considered to fall under).
If TYPE-MOON Wiki decides to join, it'd probably be considered as a "Mid-Level" wiki inside the WGEP, alongside the AliceSoft Wiki. You can take a look at What will happen? to see how it would affect TYPE-MOON Wiki if you decide to join up. Let me know if you have any questions! -Afker 16:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
- Had a look, looks good. However, I think this is a decision best postponed until this wiki is out of its early formative phase and has developed its own core group of contributors which may or may not decide to do something like this, and also until we have a bit more content to work with.
- My personal opinion on the move is this: Shared templates and the like can surely come in handy, and the rules basically are specialized versions of the Wikipedia formatting and base policy rules, which I mostly agree with. With one exception: [1]. The No Original Stubs Policy disallows the creation of any article from scratch which already has a Wikipedia article is a bit hard to swallow and may be a deal breaker, at least IMO. --Grm wnr 13:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- I don't really get what it's about (too lazy to read in details) but the "no stub if there is a wikipedia article" is a no-no, as some Type-Moon related articles on Wikipedia have informations that are too off to just copy the whole article. Byakko 15:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- That policy is a Animepedia policy. If you'll look on the right RulesNav there is a Policies section and a WGEP Policies section. The WGEP Policies section is the one with the global policies, the Policies section is the one with local policies... That one is a bit of a stronger form of the common policy of using Wikipedia content instead of Reinventing the wheel, that one is just meant for the top-level wiki. Generally the policies are founded on reason, and not just because they are there. It's actually common practice to let certain polices slide if there is a good reason to. The new wiki are encouraged to follow the Fair use policy of tagging all the images properly. But for the older or more active wiki which already have a large number of images up and untagged we usually let tagging images slide and just add a disclaimer to the About page. Also, there was a discussion on the use of romanization with the special symbols like ō instead of just o on the AliceSoftWiki, and it was decided there to just use o instead of ō as is normally used on the other wiki in the project. And also the AliceSoftWiki had a similar case to yours, most of the Wikipedia articles were of less quality than the AliceSoftWiki's articles, so we also passed that policy away for the AliceSoftWiki. I didn't really intend to have that policy stand on the TYPE-MOON Wiki either. The policy of using Wikipedia articles instead of doing things from scratch is a generally used one to avoid reinventing the wheel across the projects. We try to stick to it and enforce it where we can, but it's a policy founded on reason and not just there to be enforced. It's always dropped in the cases where Wikipedia's articles are not up-to-par with what could be done from scratch.
- You're free to come and join later, but I do have a bit of a warning. It is much easier to integrate a new wiki into the project than it is to integrate one which has already been developed. One of the 2 main points of the shared templates is for new wiki not to need to create their own. But with the method of sharing those templates, there are technical reasons that make integrating a wiki which has already created their own tougher to integrate. In those cases, I half to look through the Wiki's template and category structure. There are occasionally cases where structures need to be reformatted to a way that won't conflict with what's synced, and sometimes there are issues with a template being overridden by one which works in a different way which requires some work of changing things in already existing articles. It's also generally much easier to start using them from the start than it is to modify existing articles to use the templates after joining later. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk|local) Sep 3, 2007 @ 20:33 (UTC)
- I don't really get what it's about (too lazy to read in details) but the "no stub if there is a wikipedia article" is a no-no, as some Type-Moon related articles on Wikipedia have informations that are too off to just copy the whole article. Byakko 15:53, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Just to concisely follow up on Dantman's response, the "No Original Stubs" policy is specific to Animepedia and not a WGEP-wide policy, AND I have just written it so it should address all the concerns mentioned above. -Afker 03:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- Actually my rewrite has triggered the policy's upgrade to become WGEP-wide. Still, the re-written language should address the concerns expressed above. -Afker 03:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Just a small note, Wikia Graphical Entertainment Project has changed names to Wikia ACG. I'll move the page here. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen-local (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) (talk|local) Sep 16, 2007 @ 08:22 (UTC)