Kiritsugu's trick isn't described as a Reality Marble. The field of Time Manipulation itself is described as falling into the RM range. The Emiya family has been studying it and Kiritsugu just went the non-scientific route and made it usable in combat by limiting it to inside his body.
Their effects may sound like they're related., but Marble Phantasm & Reality Marbles are two entirely different abilities. RM are not a sub-category of Marble Phantasm.
- Sorry, but this is called Word of God. And unless said Words of God were mistranslated from Plus Period, RM in fact are a sub-category of MP.
It doesn't matter if Reality Marbles are a sub-cateogry of Marble Phantasms. Innate Time Control is neither a Reality Marble nor a Marble Phantasm. It's a bounded field which can be likened to a Reality Marble. It has nothing to do with one's inner world or connecting to the world itself. If you want to put it on this page, don't list it under Reality Marbles but as a note in the description such as "There are bounded fields with concepts similar to Reality Marbles, including Emiya Kiritsugu's Innate Time Control. --Junky (talk) 02:59, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
Hi, everyone. I'm not from english-speaking country, so i have troubles with translating of expression "Reality Marble". I just can't get meaning of this collocation/phrase. What "marble" means here? "Small glass ball"? Or "Reality Marble" is some idiom? And how did "innate bounded field" turns into "Reality Marble"? //miha4406
リアリティ・マーブル (Reality Marble) is the furigana attached to 固有結界 (Koyū Kekkai), which means "innate bounded field." I don't know what your policy of term translation is, but furigana is a pronouciation guide, in this case most likely indicating that the term is an English proper noun. Maybe the Clock Tower has an official language or something. About the etymology of the words "Reality Marble," I don't really remember if it has been explicitly said, though I've heard a lot of theories–most accept it as the glass ball rather than the form of limestone. --Junky (talk) 15:01, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
- The term Reality Marble is a kind of metaphor. I think the metaphor used was the old "one white marble in a box of black marbles" thing. A Marble Phantasm bends reality so the user always draws the white marble when used, while a Reality Marble alters reality to make all the marbles white when used. I think that either this page or the Marble Phantasm page explains this metaphor.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:05, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
- That's right, it's on the Marble Phantasm page. Apparently Nasu explained it in an interview:
- The concept works on "clustering illusion" theory of probability. Much like a mathematical metaphor involving drawing a white marble from a bag of black marbles with a one percent chance, Marble Phantasm is the ability to raise that chance to one hundred percent and definitely pick the white one amongst all the black ones. This remains within the laws of the world, but similarly, a Reality Marble would allow for all of the marble to turn into white ones.
- The term Reality Marble is a kind of metaphor. I think the metaphor used was the old "one white marble in a box of black marbles" thing. A Marble Phantasm bends reality so the user always draws the white marble when used, while a Reality Marble alters reality to make all the marbles white when used. I think that either this page or the Marble Phantasm page explains this metaphor.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:05, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
If two RM wielders, such as EMIYA and Iskander, were to face off, and eventually activate both their RMs, what would happen?--112.207.151.191 05:06, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
- There has yet to be an actual example of such a thing. If you take CCC's gameplay, I think the new one just overwrites the old one in the case of Archer vs Archer, but that's probably just a case of gameplay mechanics. EGGS (talk) 15:13, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
- The stronger one survives. It's basically two guys trying to paint a white wall with their colour of choice. The person with more paint (the more powerful RM) wins. Have a read of the TM festival Q&A, where Nasu talks about how Len's pseudo-RM can get flipped over by Arcueid's Gaia power.
- Waifu slayer (talk) 20:34, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
One day
It's said somewhere, I think it's either Talk. or Melty Blood that it's impossible to maintain a Reality Marble for over a day. It's worth mentioning in the page. Sandubadear (talk) 00:04, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
- What you should have done was go look it up instead of posting about it here. Waifu slayer (talk) 04:11, April 15, 2014 (UTC)
Should this be mentioned?
It's from the visual novel "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni". There's even a character based off of Ciel. Sandubadear (talk) 01:52, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
While obtaining a Reality Marble is very hard, a user can pass his Reality Marble down in some way once he gets it.
This should not be kept here and is completely wrong. It uses FHA Hanafuda final stage as its source which is basically an official joke. Might as well start putting All Around Type Moon and Carnival Phantasm as canon for worldbuilding concepts. To add to all of this it even misrepresents what it uses.
That scene states 'Because Reality Marbles can be inherited after their wielder's defeat. Didn't you know' while this line makes it sound like there's no specific 'information' on it. We have never seen a reality marble being passed down from one individual to another and there is no story or material that even hints towards this being a possibility
- We already have an example of someone taking over a RM, Maiko Yamase and Nrvnqsr Chaos. While not all jokes contain deep lore, some lore can be presented within jokes. I'm fine adding something about where the source came from, but it's not without precedent. EGGS (talk) 12:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)