Fcking finally even tho it was obvious all the olga subject e and david twist to the point even tvtropes had the spoiler and twist spelt out but it just wasnt on the wikia because this wikia suddenly had morals and creditbility lol

1. In a Holy Grail War, is it possible to summon and form a contract with a Divine Spirit?

2. As I know, in the Third Holy Grail War, the Einzberns summoned Avenger and, if I remember correctly, he replaced the Berserker class. If by some means one manages to summon an extra class servant, for example, a Shielder or an Avenger in a Holy Grail War, would they replace one of the standard classes?

3. In Zero, there was a dialogue between Kotomine and Gilgamesh before Kirei received new Command Spells. I don't remember the exact essence of this dialogue, but if one servant has already been eliminated in the war, would it be possible to summon a new servant? After all, with one servant eliminated, the remaining servants would be 6, and in theory, a new servant would be the 7th.

Before you ask, I know waat Idea Blood, what it does, how is connected to Principle and such but I ask more... You know about 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors? I understand that each of them does have one and that some of them are the oldest and some were True Ancestors' cows if you know what I mean. But if some of them died and their Idea Blood was lost, how does new ones have it? Since, from what I understand, it can't be replaced or akin to that. Does, if they somehow have potential, can just form their own Idea Blood or..?

Sorry if Im asking stupid question, it's nearly 2 AM for me when Im writing this so maybe I didn't noticed the explanation on the page or smth but yeah.

This is a three part question. First, if you don’t feel Musashi fits the criteria, who among all known Saber class Servants would you say should be the Grand Saber? Second, if there are any other figures in history or other sources not currently portrayed within Fate that better fit the bill, who are they? And finally, who are those among the countless other characters within other franchises besides Fate or related works that you deem worthy of the Grand Saber rank?

﹂・・・ Servant Name ・・・﹁

The Doctor (Tenth Incarnation) | «The Oncoming Storm» | «John Smith» | «Fireplace Man» | «Martian Boy» | «The Lonely God» | «Sir Doctor of TARDIS» | «Time Lord Victorious»

﹂・・• Gender | Class ・・・﹁

Male | Foreigner

﹂・・・ Alignment ・・・﹁

Chaotic Good

﹂・・・ Hidden Attribute ・・・﹁

Star

﹂・・・ Region [Country] | Source ・・・﹁

Gallifrey | Doctor Who

﹂・・・ Summoning Catalyst ・・・﹁

Converse sneakers, TARDIS key

﹂・・・ History ・・・﹁

The Doctor is a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey,a being who travels through time and space. This incarnation, the Tenth, is defined by both immense joy and profound sorrow. He is a warrior who hates weapons, a god who insists on being a man, and a lonely survivor burdened with the memory of having wiped out his own race and the Daleks in the Time War. His legend is woven from countless adventures across the universe, saving civilizations and individuals with his intellect and compassion. His feats include defeating the Sycorax, repelling the Cybermen, ending the Dalek-Caan's reality-breaking scheme, and, in his final act, absorbing a lethal dose of radiation to save a single human companion, leading to his regeneration. His artifacts—the TARDIS, the Sonic Screwdriver, and his own biology—are the foundation of his Noble Phantasms.

﹂・・・ Appearance ・・・﹁

Hair Color: Dark brown

Eye Color: Dark brown

Height:185 cm

Weight:70 kg

﹂・・・ Personality ・・・﹁

The Tenth Doctor generally presents himself as carefree, talkative, good-natured, witty, and cheeky, but he becomes more serious when facing enemies. He can sometimes be as ruthless and dangerous as his seventh incarnation, though he has a much lesser tendency for complex schemes and convoluted actions. Like the Seventh and Ninth Doctors, the Tenth sometimes uses a cheerful, bubbly exterior to mask his true feelings. He loves to chatter, always weaving important information with complete nonsense to lull his enemies into a false sense of security. He can also be rude and cruel when the situation calls for it.

Likes/Loves: His companions, bananas (especially with yogurt), tea, exploring, clever plans, humanity, Jammie Dodgers, saying "Allons-y!"

Dislikes/Hates:Weapons, cruelty, "the man who never would," being called a hero, being alone, fixed points in time, losing people.

﹂・・・ Class Skills ・・・﹁

· Existence Outside the Domain (EX): As a Time Lord, the Doctor exists outside the standard flow of time and space that governs human history. He perceives and interacts with the timeline on a multi-dimensional level, making him immune to temporal-based attacks and magecraft. His very being is a paradox.

· Divinity (E-): Having been worshiped as a god by some cultures and having met (and rejected) genuine deities, he possesses a minuscule rank. However, his own personal disdain for divinity causes this skill to be drastically reduced, almost negated.

﹂・・・ Personal Skills ・・・﹁

· Pioneer of the Stars: (EX): The Doctor doesn't just make history; he corrects it, subverts it, and occasionally rewrites it. He has personally averted galactic-level catastrophes and set civilizations on their destined paths. His actions have "turned the impossible into the possible," granting him this highest rank.

· Time Lord Physiology (A): A composite skill reflecting his non-human nature, granting a high resistance to conventional poisons, diseases, and mental interference. It includes a weak form of Battle Continuation (C-) through his regeneration ability (though a full regeneration into another Servant form is unlikely in a standard HGW).

· Charisma of the Wanderer (B): While not a king, his vibrant and persuasive personality allows him to easily gain the trust and cooperation of others, often inspiring loyalty and convincing allies and even enemies to follow his lead. This skill functions differently from standard military Charisma, focusing on individual inspiration and alliance building.

· TARDIS: Perception Filter (A): The conceptual ability of the TARDIS to be "Bigger on the Inside" and remain unnoticed as a simple blue box. The Doctor can apply this as a potent form of stealth and information suppression, making himself and nearby allies conceptually harder to perceive, notice, or identify unless directly interacting with them.

· "No Second Chances” (B): A potential skill reflecting his darker side. When activated, the Doctor's outward persona vanishes, allowing him to employ ruthless, high-risk tactics and temporarily boosting his parameters and the effectiveness of his Noble Phantasms, but it locks him into a path of confrontation that he cannot back down from until the enemy is defeated.

﹂・・・ Noble Phantasms ・・・﹁

· TARDIS: The Blue Box that Traverses Reality

Rank: EX

Type: Anti-World / Fortress

The Doctor's primary Noble Phantasm. A sentient, dimensionally transcendental ship that is "bigger on the inside." It is not merely a vehicle, but a pocket reality that exists outside the normal flow of time. When anchored, it can create a "Time Lord Domain," imposing its own rules of physics and temporality on the World. Its full power is almost never used, as its primary function is travel and sanctuary. Summoning it fully in a Grail War would be an event on par with the manifestation of a Reality Marble.

· Sonic Screwdriver: Multi-Purpose Genius Tool for Everything Except Wood

Rank: C

Type: Anti-Unit

His signature tool, a device that uses sonic energy to interact with most technology, lock and unlock things, scan matter, amplify signals, and remotely control various mechanisms.

In the Fate universe, the Sonic Screwdriver acts as a universal conceptual interference tool. It can bypass all but the strongest Bounded Fields, interfere with low-level Magecraft operations, and analyze the composition and nature of almost any object or Servant skill it scans. It is primarily a utility NP, reflecting his non-violent nature, designed to avoid conflict by breaking down barriers or providing critical information.

﹂・・・ Parameters ・・・﹁

Strength:D

Endurance:C (Effectively A+ due to Unyielding Will and Regeneration)

Agility:B

Mana:A+

Luck:E (His luck is famously terrible; he survives, but always at a great personal cost)

NP:EX

January - Rider (Astolfo)

February - Caster (Medea)

March - Saber (Nero Claudius)

April - Assassin (Hassan of the Cursed Arm) Heaven's Feel

May - Berserker (Frankenstein)

June - Archer (Gilgamesh)

July - Caster (Gilles de Rais)

August - Saber (Mordred)

September - Rider (Vlad Tepes)

October - Lancer (Diarmuid Ua Duibhne)

November - Assassin (Semiramis)

December - Saber (Arturia)

As it says above, I want to ask who of all the Servants in the Fate Series you love and cherish, along with any historical or fictional figures you would want added to their numbers and why you feel that way. In short, I want to know what people love about these characters and those of other works.

﹂・・・ Servant Name ・・・﹁

Lucy | «The Progenitor of Dawn» | «Dinknesh (The Wonderful One)» | «AL 288-1» | «The First Mother»

﹂・・• Gender | Class ・・・﹁

Female| Berserker

﹂・・・ Alignment ・・・﹁

Neutral•Good

﹂・・・ Hidden Attribute ・・・﹁

Human

﹂・・・ Region [Country] | Source ・・・﹁

Ethiopia(Afar Region) | Paleoanthropology

﹂・・・ Summoning Catalyst ・・・﹁

The replica of her fossilized skeleton,or soil taken from the site of her discovery in Hadar, Ethiopia.

﹂・・・ History ・・・﹁

She is not a hero of myth,but a heroine of reality. Her true name is unknown to history; "Lucy" is a modern epithet given to the most complete skeleton of an Australopithecus afarensis individual ever discovered. She lived approximately 3.2 million years ago and represents a critical juncture in human evolution: a creature that walked upright on the ground, yet still retained the ability to climb trees with ease.

Her legend is not one of kings or conquests, but of survival and the first, tentative steps towards humanity. Her "feats" are etched into her very bones—the structure of her pelvis and knees that prove bipedalism, the wear on her teeth that speak of a varied diet. Her "Noble Phantasm" is the indelible mark she and her kind left upon the world, the spark of potential from which all of humanity would eventually spring. As a Servant, she is a Pseudo-Servant, where the "legend" of the species she represents has been given a voice and form through the most famous individual specimen.

﹂・・・ Appearance ・・・﹁

Her skin is sun-darkened and covered in faint, downy hair. Her eyes are a warm, intelligent amber, holding a deep, ancient curiosity. Her features are a mix of modern human and archaic hominin, with a slightly more pronounced jaw and brow ridge. She stands with a slight, natural stoop, but her posture is grounded and stable. She wears minimal clothing, primarily animal hides and simple leather straps, adorned with feathers, bones, and polished stones. Her feet are bare, calloused, and strong.

Hair Color: Dark Brown/Black

Eye Color:Amber

Height:105 cm

Weight:28 kg

﹂・・・ Personality ・・・﹁

Lucy's mind is a strange fusion of primal instinct and profound,nascent sapience. As a Berserker, her primary language is emotion and sensation, not complex speech. She communicates through grunts, gestures, and empathetic projections of feeling. She is intensely curious, examining anything new with her hands, nose, and mouth. She is fiercely protective of those she considers her "troop" (her Master and allies), displaying a loyalty that is simple, direct, and absolute.

However, the Madness Enhancement skill renders her emotional state volatile. A sudden loud noise can trigger a flight response, a perceived threat can send her into a savage, shrieking rage, and a moment of beauty (like a sunrise) can leave her in a state of silent, tearful awe. She views the modern world with a mixture of terror and wonder, seeing steel and glass as strange, cold cliffs, and crowds of people as an impossibly large, confusing tribe.

Likes/Loves: The warmth of the sun, ripe fruit, high places to perch and observe, the sound of flowing water, her Master (whom she sees as the alpha of her troop).

Dislikes/Hates:The smell of smoke and industry, being confined, large predatory animals (even as phantoms), the cold loneliness of being the "only one."

﹂・・・ Class Skills ・・・﹁

· Madness Enhancement: C

Rather than a curse or magical effect, this "madness" is the raw, unfiltered state of a pre-human consciousness. It raises her Parameters in exchange for the suppression of complex language and modern reasoning. She operates on a spectrum of primal emotions: curiosity, fear, joy, and rage. In a calm state, she can be reasoned with through simple commands and empathy, but when threatened, her mind regresses to pure, survival-driven fury.

﹂・・・ Personal Skills ・・・﹁

· Primordial Mother (Humanity) (EX):

A Skill representing one who stands at the root of a species' lineage. Lucy is a common ancestor to all humanity. This grants her a unique conceptual defense against "younger" mysteries. Phenomena and weapons born from human history, myth, and achievement have their effectiveness slightly reduced against her, as she is their "origin." It is not a powerful defensive barrier, but a subtle, pervasive resistance.

· Walking Upright - The First Step (A):

The sublimation of her greatest evolutionary achievement. This skill represents the liberation of the hands and the expansion of the horizon. It grants her incredible agility and balance, allowing her to traverse any terrain—vertical cliffs, dense forests, crumbling ruins—as if it were flat ground. Furthermore, it embodies the "potential" of the hand, granting her a preternatural skill in using found objects as simple tools or projectiles.

· Echo of the Pliocene Savannah (B):

A form of clairvoyance, but not for seeing the future. Lucy can instinctively "read" a landscape. She can sense sources of water, predict the paths of animals, identify edible plants, and find the safest routes and most defensible locations. It is the survival wisdom of three million years ago, made manifest as a Skill.

﹂・・・ Noble Phantasms ・・・﹁

• AL 288-1: The Skeleton of a New Dawn

Rank:C

Type:Anti-Unit (Self)

This is not a weapon she wields,but the manifestation of her own fossilized remains. When invoked, a phantom image of her famous skeleton superimposes over her body. In this state, her "fragile" human-like flesh is replaced by the enduring, petrified truth of her existence. She becomes a being of stone and ancient memory, dramatically increasing her Endurance and granting near-total immunity to mental interference and poisons. However, her Agility drops, as she moves with the heavy, grinding gait of stone. It is the ultimate defensive state, representing how her true power was not in life, but in the enduring legacy she left for eternity.

• Dinknesh: The Wonderful One Who Begets Kings

Rank:EX

Type:Anti-Humanity Noble Phantasm

This is Lucy's true Noble Phantasm,and it cannot be actively used in a standard Holy Grail War. Its activation conditions are nearly impossible to meet. It is the sublimation of her role as a progenitor. If somehow activated, it does not attack or defend. Instead, it performs a "conceptual rewrite" on a target, reverting them to a state of pure, primal potential—stripping away all the layers of civilization, culture, and even the Mystery accumulated throughout their legend. It is a return to the "beginning," a reset to zero. Against a Servant, this could mean the temporary loss of all Skills and Noble Phantasms tied to their human achievements, reducing them to their most basic spiritual core. It is the ultimate expression of "I am what came before you."

﹂・・・ Parameters ・・・﹁

Strength: C

Endurance:E -> A (under AL 288-1)

Agility:A+

Mana:E

Luck:D

NP:EX

So, while checking the page about current Dead Apostles, I was having trouble to kinda get how their ranking works. Like, I get it's also about potential or being Rank III slave but how do you EXACTLY rise it? Do you just need to drink enough blood or do you need to understand/develop that "curse" more?

Also what is that "curse?" Is it about their Idea Blood/Principle or something else because I re-read the page like 2 times and still couldn't see the explanation. So either I was and am right now too sleepy/tired to notice or idk.

Who would be a better Master for her instead of Shinji or Sakura?