What classification of NP is stronger, Anti-World or Anti-Planet?

DarkMaciek999·7/17/2025 in Questions and Answers

So! A while back, while I was working on fan-made servants and kinda tried to research stuff, I saw a reddit post that was debunking Gil I think. But while I was reading it and such, I frozed and thought "...Isn't the Anti-World NP stronger than Anti-Planet NP?" I thought it was, which is why I left a comment about it on that post but that's not about it. I asked myself then... "Which of them is actually stronger?" And that question is still on me there because of the statements of EA for example, that it seemingly never used it's 100%, how the World and Servant works, and how the classifications are describe at the page here for NPs.

That's why I came to ask tryhard people who are more knowledgable about the topics more than I am due to being able to watch or play stuff I can't either due to not being to buy the game or watch the movies/anime because I live in Poland. So can someone answer me this question

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Noble Phantasm

LorenerdSupreme·7/17/2025

Yes, but even in LB 6 the Planet was still there. The landmasses had all been destroyed, but the actual physical Planet was still there.

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DarkMaciek999·7/17/2025

True, but this could have been said to be "destroying the planet" since Im not sure if Cernunnos could make the landmass again, unless by sacrifacing himself and doing what fairies did to him and then to create people again somehow, but considering fairies found a way, even if a brutal one, yeah

LorenerdSupreme·7/17/2025

I mean, it could be, but when I say Planet Destroying I mean Death Star level. Plus, the Inner Sea survived fine, it was the outer layer that was destroyed, that's how Cernunnos and the fairies survived. Never forget, in the 'verse Earth=Onion

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DarkMaciek999·7/17/2025

And the only one we seen destroy the planet was ORT. And theoritically that could do it is Shiki in Saber form, maybe Amaterasu but probably not likely if Sefar couldn't, and such. And out of the characters we didn't saw yet, probably Azathoth's Foreigner vessel (if he will ever get one). I mean in H.P Lovecraft, he did destroy Earth and as being the strongest Outer God, yeah. I could see even the avatar/Foreigner that uses his power to be able to do smth like that

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Leandro ciriaco·7/17/2025

It's funny how people say Anti-World Noble Phantasms don't destroy planets, even though things like Lie Like Vortigern exist. Artemis is said to be a planet-destroyer, and Zeus should be at least stronger than her — although the Olympians did become weaker after becoming part of the planet.

DarkMaciek999·7/17/2025

Tbh, Im just waiting for Hades or Persephone to get added as a servant, even if it will be probably as either some kind of human vessel made by them or possessed someone else's body

LorenerdSupreme·7/17/2025

And yet, despite their supposed Planet destroying power, Chaldea beat them. Heracles even tanks a shot from Artemis with just buffs from Caster servants.

Lie Like Vortigern is why I said most can't destroy the World, it very much can.

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Leandro ciriaco·7/17/2025

@LorenerdSupreme She was obviously holding back. Even if you think she couldn’t destroy the planet, you have to at least agree that if she used her full power, she would have destroyed the entire Lostbelt.

LorenerdSupreme·7/17/2025

Oh she could 100% destroy the Lostbelt, just not the actual Planet.

Leandro ciriaco·7/17/2025

@LorenerdSupreme It's actually stated the opposite, but alright, I guess

What do you think?